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18 August 2009 @ 09:56 am
Fake Out?  
Yeah, first post to the community of mine, I think.

I was looking up moves that Kangaskhan can learn, and I saw fake out. I've faced a Kangaskhan that had and used fake out on me. So anyway, the description on serebii said "A 1st turn, 1st strike move that causes flinching." I don't get it. So you have to use it on the first turn? And it only has 40 power? What's the point of using it if you can only use it once, on the first turn, and it only has 40 power? I think it's a waste. Do any of you guys feel the same?

Wait - something just popped up in my mind. If I switch out my Kangaskhan, then put it back in, can I use Fake Out again? Then it might be useful, I guess. Also, are there any other moves that you guys think are useless?

--Mud Sport
--Water Sport
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アリ (Ali): Pokemon - FCmnemosynekurai on August 18th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
The way I see it, Fake Out can be really, really useful. For example: you're in a battle, right? Well your Kangaskhan can use Fake Out, deal 40 damage, and your foe will always flinch, so his/her chances of striking back that turn are down to zero. It's really like an extra hit for you. :)

There are quite a few moves, especially ones that were whored out in the earlier gens, like Harden. I mean, it's a good strategy, to up your defenses, but eventually, well, I guess it just gets really annoying.
Rythen Eugeadunsparce on August 18th, 2009 02:27 pm (UTC)
From Smogon:
"Attacks with priority. Flinches the target. Can only be used on the user's first turn out. Switching the user back in will allow it to be used again."

(I like them for some of the attack details)

appears that it'd be good in conjunction with some other attacks/abilities. Probably not on Kanga, though.
→ just say yes ☆tortoises on August 18th, 2009 02:29 pm (UTC)
Ryanryasaurus on August 18th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
How could I forget splash?
Calijesusatemeout on August 18th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
Hahaha I was going to say something like "I'm pretty sure splash is the only useless move out there." but you beat me to it.
Captain Sexy Bidoof Williams: hoppioh godchainofironrose on August 18th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
I've never found much use for Embargo or Heal Block.
Destiny ♪: [PKMN] Awesomeyuidirnt on August 18th, 2009 09:36 pm (UTC)
I'll never understand how or when Heal Block would be useful.
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Andrewinter_sidhe on August 18th, 2009 04:20 pm (UTC)
This plus it's a nice little slap in the face when you already have out entry hazards.
goddamn itpigmask on August 18th, 2009 02:48 pm (UTC)
fake out is useful on pokemon like persian or ambipom. their ability, technician, plus STAB from normal type, makes fake out pretty powerful. you can only use it on the first turn though, but if you recall your pokemon, send it out again some time later, it can use fake out again

as volmise said, it's useful for getting rid of focus sashes, and it's a pretty good annoyer move. being flinched 100% and unable to attack that turn is annoying ;___;

yeah though, water/mud sport is kind of pointless
Alicesilverqe on August 18th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
Fake Out breaks Focus Sashes, always flinches, and on a Pokemon with an Attack-boosting item (Life Orb, Choice Band) it does a respectable amount of damage on what is basically a free turn. It's really quite a fabulous skill, and can't even be remotely compared to Mud Sport. -_-;
don't you dare call me jimmycommuntycard on August 18th, 2009 03:28 pm (UTC)
Following up on the breaking Focus Sash theme, the reason this is important is to stop the fairly popular suicide lead from setting up their team's stealth rocks/spike/toxic spikes. These pokes are predicated on having a focus slash, a lot of speed and just putting up their entry hazards before just plain old dying or going out with a bang.

Azelf is a pretty popular such lead (explosion, stealth rock, taunt) who gets shut down by the weavile or infernape anti-lead who can fake out the first turn breaking sash then return with an appropriate move before Azelf can do anything unless they switch out.
Kitxuneichaosoftwilight on August 18th, 2009 04:18 pm (UTC)
dude fake out is far from useless. 1st strike and auto-flinch?
Cat Brooks: Magnemitecatbrooks on August 18th, 2009 05:41 pm (UTC)
Great for double battles if the second pokemon is slow.
Felix: buddhafelixdiecat on August 18th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
FO is a stupid move, imho... And Mud Sport's more annoying... 'specially 'cause it's typically learned by ground Pokemon, which are already immune to electricity. Sure, it comes up in a double battle, maybe, but it's a waste otherwise...